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Various Art By Telephone dialed the numbers to receive instructions for one-minute happenings. The artist asked people to contribute their own waste to the enclosed Plexiglas area. Feb 27, PM in response to turingtest2 Various Art By Telephone response to turingtest2 Thank you - i've tried all this sort list stuff, but i've not tried the 'x' idea, so I will give that a try. Also another issue may well be the Various Artists option additional field in the Sorting panel. The idea of the trailing X method is to add it to merge things, then immediately remove it again so that things are shown the way you want them to be.

Visitors dialed the numbers to receive instructions for one-minute happenings. The exhibition included installations that relied heavily on audience participation, such as Arman 's famous trashcans. The artist asked people to contribute their own waste to the enclosed Plexiglas area.

Once it was filled to the brim, the work was considered complete. Others, such as William Wegman 's Third Day , embraced natural occurrences. The water evaporated in three days, exposing the words engraved on the floor. Use the songs view and display the fields Album, Sort Album, Album Artist, Sort Album Artist , Artist and Sort Artist side by side so you see whether or not it is appropriate to edit Artist and if sort values could be causing any further problems. See Grouping tracks into albums for more help if required.

Feb 27, PM. If metadata changes don't take possibilities are tracks marked as read-only or with incorrect security permissions that don't allow the files to be updated, or in the case of mp3 files, multiple tags. A workaround for this last possibility is addressed in the linked article. Page content loaded. Feb 27, PM in response to turingtest2 In response to turingtest2. Thank you - i've tried all this sort list stuff, but i've not tried the 'x' idea, so I will give that a try.

Just now i've gone through and changed the 'info' data to just say various artists for about 20 compilations, the same with sort artist and album artist, but when it updates and I go back to 'songs' view, none of that data is there. I also ponder that this was never an issue until Apple music came along and wanted to rewrite everything, so despite having that Apple Music disabled in theory , I suspect that little bit of code does not help.

I did take your advice and changed all the artist and album artist to have XX at the end You seem to know lots about iTunes This appears to have disappeared now, and the couple of lists I have that in theory should update as I add new tracks, so they can be copied to my iPhone, well it doesn't work There is an option called Live Updating which applies to Smart Playlists. If this is enabled then there is no need for the context menu Update Smart Playlist to appear, so it doesn't.

Turn off Live Updating for a particular playlist and you should see it. I didn't think to untick the live and see if it reappeared, so thanks. And yep, I got the point about live updates, but it only does it when the iphone is connected, what if i want to update the playlist without my phone being involved - it seems it doesn't wish to do that now. Thanks though for your help, you're awesome! If you leave Live Updating selected then each list should update automatically as metadata is updated.

It works fine here. Feb 28, AM. Nov 13, PM. Nov 13, PM in response to turingtest2 In response to turingtest2. I have used the "trailing character" trick and it usually works, though it's obviously a bug that should be addressed.

This was never an issue with iTunes until recently. I have been adding new songs to the Library the past few days and with the new iTunes running on OS Sierra they will not sort to the artist- they will create a new grouping. The problem with using the trailing character is that the artist has over songs already and it takes iTunes a LONG time to process them. I've never used the "Album Artist" field. Is there no other way?

Nov 14, AM in response to jmj20 In response to jmj Eek, you certainly don't want to have to update 3, tracks just to get say 10 to fall in line. Try changing the problem tracks so that they don't match, either with a trailing X or something random.

Close ITunes then reopen which should make it reindex the collections of values for autocompete. Now go back in to edit the field you're trying to fix and use autocomplete to select the value you want. Hopefully iTunes will merge the items as it is supposed to. Nov 14, AM. Nov 14, AM in response to turingtest2 In response to turingtest2. Thanks for your help.

To verify your suggestion: All songs already have a trailing "x" since I used that trick a week ago and it did work. The 2 songs that will not sort also have the x- I put it in as I added them.

I added a y to one if them and a z to the other. That did separate them. Then I quit iTunes, re-opened it, and changed the y and the z back to an x. Now they have stayed separated from one another as well as the artist, so it's worse. I quit iTunes again and re-opened. Still no change. I restarted the computer but no dice either. Before I had this issue, I found that if the "Album Artist" field had an entry it would effect the sorting so I've made sure that it was blank.

Could that have an effect now? If so, it would mean re-sorting all again. Also, when I go to "Recently Added" it shows the album I'm trying to add to and all the songs are there as they should be-?? Nov 14, PM in response to jmj20 In response to jmj The idea of the trailing X method is to add it to merge things, then immediately remove it again so that things are shown the way you want them to be.

In most cases one is working with a single album, or a few albums by a single artist. Modifying 3, tracks at once is a little more drastic.

Visitors dialed the numbers to receive instructions for one-minute happenings. The exhibition included installations that relied heavily on audience participation, such as Arman 's famous trashcans. The artist asked people to contribute their own waste to the enclosed Plexiglas area. Once it was filled to the brim, the work was considered complete. Others, such as William Wegman 's Third Day , embraced natural occurrences.

The water evaporated in three days, exposing the words engraved on the floor. I have used the "trailing character" trick and it usually works, though it's obviously a bug that should be addressed. This was never an issue with iTunes until recently.

I have been adding new songs to the Library the past few days and with the new iTunes running on OS Sierra they will not sort to the artist- they will create a new grouping. The problem with using the trailing character is that the artist has over songs already and it takes iTunes a LONG time to process them. I've never used the "Album Artist" field. Is there no other way? Nov 14, AM in response to jmj20 In response to jmj Eek, you certainly don't want to have to update 3, tracks just to get say 10 to fall in line.

Try changing the problem tracks so that they don't match, either with a trailing X or something random. Close ITunes then reopen which should make it reindex the collections of values for autocompete.

Now go back in to edit the field you're trying to fix and use autocomplete to select the value you want.

Hopefully iTunes will merge the items as it is supposed to. Nov 14, AM. Nov 14, AM in response to turingtest2 In response to turingtest2. Thanks for your help. To verify your suggestion: All songs already have a trailing "x" since I used that trick a week ago and it did work. The 2 songs that will not sort also have the x- I put it in as I added them. I added a y to one if them and a z to the other. That did separate them. Then I quit iTunes, re-opened it, and changed the y and the z back to an x.

Now they have stayed separated from one another as well as the artist, so it's worse. I quit iTunes again and re-opened. Still no change. I restarted the computer but no dice either. Before I had this issue, I found that if the "Album Artist" field had an entry it would effect the sorting so I've made sure that it was blank. Could that have an effect now? If so, it would mean re-sorting all again.

Also, when I go to "Recently Added" it shows the album I'm trying to add to and all the songs are there as they should be-?? Nov 14, PM in response to jmj20 In response to jmj The idea of the trailing X method is to add it to merge things, then immediately remove it again so that things are shown the way you want them to be. In most cases one is working with a single album, or a few albums by a single artist. Modifying 3, tracks at once is a little more drastic.

Ideally you'd be able to work with just the new tracks in a way that links them to the rest. I know that I've always been able to get there in the end but it does seem to take an unnecessary degree of persistence. I'd generally recommend that that Album Artist is completed as appropriate. Use sort values consistently if you're going to add them and don't try to merge different primary values with a common sort value. Nov 14, PM. Nov 21, PM in response to turingtest2 In response to turingtest2.

With, as you said, "an unnecessary degree of persistence" I was able to get the songs sorted to where they belong by adding and subtracting trailing characters multiple times over many days. But any newly added songs since then have the same problem- so the issue persists. I have always been careful about consistency with the fields since I have learned how they can mess up the sort- for instance, "Album Artist" can cause problems so I leave that blank.

I also leave the "Artist Sort As" field blank also unless it's an artist with a first and last name because I sort by last name. I wonder if they would help in a positive way in this case?

If you have no other suggestions I'll just have to hope that Apple sends a fix soon. I have been using iTunes for about ten years without this issue until the last couple of upgrades. Thanks, again. Nov 21, PM. I have many one track albums, purchased from iTunes Store, in my library. When I view in the Albums view, they are not listed in the compilations grouping. Any help welcomed.

Jan 7, AM. Communities Contact Support. Sign in Sign in Sign in corporate. Browse Search. Ask a question. Question: Q: Question: Q: Various Artist - sorting problems iTunes So i have a huge library of compilation albums, some are identified correctly in terms of song name, artists name, album name, and the 'album is a compilation of songs by various artists' ticked.